Comments on: The Way of Client-Side Templating http://synodinos.net/2008/02/22/the-way-of-client-side-templating/ Inside every large post is a small post struggling to get out. Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:43:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Dionysios Synodinos http://synodinos.net/2008/02/22/the-way-of-client-side-templating/#comment-9034 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:32:24 +0000 http://synodinos.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-9034 Johann, if you want to get your hands dirty with client-side-templating, there are some very helpful examples on the JST site which you can extend. If you want to get the full picture I’d suggest going through the following:

http://www.infoq.com/articles/rationalizing-presentation-tier

http://sites.google.com/a/thinserverarchitecture.com/home/Articles

http://welcome.totheinter.net/2008/08/05/mvc-pattern-for-the-web/

http://glyphobet.net/blog/essay/153

http://advogato.org/article/993.html

http://mv.asterisco.pt/cat.cgi?A%20Future%20Web%20Development%20Framework%20-%20Architecture

http://jollytoad.googlepages.com/mvcusingjquery

http://www.owensperformance.com/articles/217/Will_AJAX_Break_MVC.xhtml

Also it would be nice if you had the time to have a basic understanding of the Web Presentation Patterns of the EAA book (http://martinfowler.com/books.html#eaa) or the J2EE patterns catalog. Both are classics, but are starting to show their age.

]]> By: Johann http://synodinos.net/2008/02/22/the-way-of-client-side-templating/#comment-9022 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:55:47 +0000 http://synodinos.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-9022 Thx for your answer,

that helped me. I searched a while and didn’t find to much concerning client side templating. At least not in the in manner i’m interested in.

Is there any reference(book, paper, article, blog,..) that you could recommend me for further reading. Even if my application tends to be small I just want to practice the right design and structure for …mmhmh ..well, not doing ad-hoc-kamikaze-programming.

Thx again
Johann

]]> By: Dionysios Synodinos http://synodinos.net/2008/02/22/the-way-of-client-side-templating/#comment-9019 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:20:23 +0000 http://synodinos.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-9019 “Is client-side-templating similiar or even equal to single-page-application, and something like a MVC-thing with the V on the side of the client and the rest on the serverside?”

I’ve been trying for a long time to write a follow up piece on how AJAX and solid client side frameworks like Dojo and jQuery blur the lines of MVC, but haven’t found the time.

To answer your question, YES in client-side-templating a large percentage of V part of MVC is done on the client.

“I would like to use the EXTJS framework for the client side and the Zend-Framework for the server side and though just exchange json-data.”

Most contemporary frameworks where developed to do the “V” primarily on the server and thus are far from optimal. Since what you need is decoupled services that produce e.g. json, I would suggest using a small core functionality from any framework you choose. Especially in the case of PHP you might find that the PEAR libraries can take you a long way.

Be warned though that doing a large part of the MVC on the client is “the road less traveled by”, but at the end “that will make all the difference” :)

]]> By: Johann http://synodinos.net/2008/02/22/the-way-of-client-side-templating/#comment-9012 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:38:52 +0000 http://synodinos.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-9012 Hi,
i’m working on a ajax-web-application for private pleasure in the moment. Your post is the first thing i have found concerning client-side templating. Is client-side-templating similiar or even equal to single-page-application, and something like a MVC-thing with the V on the side of the client and the rest on the serverside? I would like to use the EXTJS framework for the client side and the Zend-Framework for the server side and though just exchange json-data.
Does that sound reasonable to you? Would be great to get a response of an expert concerning MVC delegation with client-side-templating.
Thx in advance
Johann

]]> By: sofia http://synodinos.net/2008/02/22/the-way-of-client-side-templating/#comment-5524 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:37:42 +0000 http://synodinos.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-5524 Besides jst or xslt on the client, pure (http://beebole.com/pure/) looks interesting. Have you looked into it?
I also think that client-side templating will facilitate the creation of custom views of an app by its visitors, which can then be shared. At the very least easier greasemonkey scripts (since the data format will be standard, eg. json, yaml, etc ).
Best,
Sofia

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